Posts by neat blue dog

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Review: 2018 "Be Courageous!" convention

by neat blue dog in

friday and saturday were for the most part pretty light, not too culty or doctinal, could easily suck in the unsuspecting.

there were a couple of hypocritical lines that i took note of however.

at one point the speaker said, "if your boss fires everyone who disagrees with him but promotes everyone who agrees with him, you might be tempted to agree with him just to keep your job.

neat blue dog

Friday and Saturday were for the most part pretty light, not too culty or doctinal, could easily suck in the unsuspecting. There were a couple of hypocritical lines that I took note of however. At one point the speaker said, "If your boss fires everyone who disagrees with him but promotes everyone who agrees with him, you might be tempted to agree with him just to keep your job. That's what it was like under king Ahab, who killed anyone who told the truth." I'm sure the hypocrisy is obvious in this one, with how they brand any dissenting beliefs as apostasy, forcing many to be PIMO. Another thing that was said, along similar lines, was, "Read the Bible daily so that you can prove to yourself that the faithful slave is in harmony with the Bible." Well I did exactly that, and that's how I came to be convinced that JWs are full of it. Of course they don't leave an option for any other outcome. If you 'study' the Bible you WILL agree with the GB . . . If you know what's good for you. Another annoying trend in a number of the videos was the portrayal of "worldly" people as seeking confrontation, of shoving their beliefs down your throat and mocking you if you disagree. I know there are some people like that, including JWs, but by and large such a stereotype is ridiculous. Most people are respectful of others beliefs, even if it upsets them, and prefer to avoid confrontation. On Sunday, things were stepped up. The whole morning symposium was about Us Vs. Them scenarios and all the obscure doomsday prophecies that somehow all apply to Jehovah's Witnesses, great tribulation, attacks, speculation etc. In one of the videos they even brought up the quote from that now infamous WT about obeying everything even if it doesn't make sense. The speaker later emphasized this, saying, "Brothers and Sisters: If in the future, you receive instructions that don't make sense from a human standpoint, follow them." They also showed an update on Phelicity, the little girl who had appeared on JW Broadcasting and said that she had died soon after. (JW Survey revealed that she had a GoFundMe campaign to get her to a bloodless hospital in the US for $150,000.) The movie about Jonah was well made. The pacing dragged in the second half, but overall it was a high quality production with decent effects and periodic humor, and I enjoyed it. During the last talk, the speaker said that at another convention when he said 'we've reached the end of the convention' a young one in the audience shouted 'hooray!' before his mother covered his mouth with her hand. Then he remarked, "Out of the mouth of babes". The day concluded with the video that many of us have seen already, about the small group of JWs being closed in on by the men with guns just as Jesus steps in and obliterates them with his bow and arrow. Among the JWs were the boy from this year's video that was disturbed by the apocalyptic painting in a WT publication, the Oriental real estate agent with the nose job from last year's sitcom, the family that had one tragedy after another from the movie from year before last, as well as some from other videos. It was accompanied by a new song called "Give Me Courage", and with the slick, powerful editing you can see how this would whip up any Witness into a cultish frenzy of emotion, even those on the fence. Up until I went, I was under the impression that this was the first year with no real new releases, (the two dramas don't count, everybody already knows about them). I had even looked at the new releases section and that's all that I saw. Well, this morning I see they added the MP3 version of the new song to Sunday's releases.

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Streisand Effect

by neat blue dog in

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect?full=1.

sounds like something that is right up wt's alley, any examples come to mind?.

neat blue dog

scratchme1010:

I'm gonna be positive and assume you always like playing devil's advocate lol

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Streisand Effect

by neat blue dog in

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect?full=1.

sounds like something that is right up wt's alley, any examples come to mind?.

neat blue dog

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/dear-watchtower-thank-you-for-your-tight-pants-copyright-complaint

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Streisand Effect

by neat blue dog in

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect?full=1.

sounds like something that is right up wt's alley, any examples come to mind?.

neat blue dog

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/streisand-effect?full=1

Sounds like something that is right up WT's alley, any examples come to mind?

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Medical prohibitions leading to documented loss

by Vanderhoven7 in

other than general cases involving blood prohibitions...are you aware of instances of jws or exjws who have suffered health issues as a result of obedience to wts medical dictates?.

i'm thinking specifically of those who were denied vaccinations or organ transplants and i would also include those who were denied hemophelac preparations from 1975 - 1978.. any known or documented examples would be appreciated..

neat blue dog

W/T allows vaccinations in this day and age, right

Yeah they allow them now . . . STILL, many JWs are of the personality type that is emotion driven and often go for conspiracy theories/'natural' cures, etc. That's what led them to be JWs in the first place. So I know a number of them that gravitate towards viewing vaccinations as government conspiracy/causing autism etc. and won't have their kids inoculated.

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Medical prohibitions leading to documented loss

by Vanderhoven7 in

other than general cases involving blood prohibitions...are you aware of instances of jws or exjws who have suffered health issues as a result of obedience to wts medical dictates?.

i'm thinking specifically of those who were denied vaccinations or organ transplants and i would also include those who were denied hemophelac preparations from 1975 - 1978.. any known or documented examples would be appreciated..

neat blue dog

hoser:

That has nothing to do with the question, which is a very valid one, and one that may become quite relevant if JWs are ever to be taken to account before the governments for human rights abuses. And BTW, most people don't smoke, and most people aren't JWs.

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blood

by zeb in

over heard other day.

if you take blood you are taking in some ones elses dna.?.

i eat meat and vegetables drink milk so what about the dna in them...

neat blue dog

DNA? What about all the white blood cells in milk?

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Where Do You Think Your Dear Loved Ones Are?

by minimus in

jw
friends

since we were jws at one time, has it influenced your view as to where your dead loved ones are now?

i know many here do not believe in anything biblical but i’m curious as to whether you believe anyone is in heaven?

?.

neat blue dog

Perry:

Thanks so much for that link, it's very comforting. I love the concept of our brain being a receptor, a conduit for our 'real' conciousness in the spirit realm. On the similar subject of near death experiences, JWs would always insist such things were the product of mental illness, the subconscious, or demon tricks . . . That Samuel wasn't actually Samuel talking to Saul . . . That Moses and Elijah talking with Jesus were just spiritual holograms . . . That Abraham being in heaven in Jesus' illustration was just creative license . . . In the words of Han Solo in The Force Awakens:

"It's true . . . All of it."

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